tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post6909050452969978956..comments2024-01-06T02:43:32.491+08:00Comments on Pi's T W I S T: Free education? More help for the poor?Pi Banihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-74282727865628319042007-09-10T17:36:00.000+08:002007-09-10T17:36:00.000+08:00Nightwing,I noticed this matter has already been b...Nightwing,<BR/>I noticed this matter has already been brought up over the weekend. I guess on the first day everybody got excited and forgot all about the hidden costs... then when they start thinking about it, then they realised the other things that need to be paid.<BR/><BR/>But yeah, I'll just wait for the lists from the schools...Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-598612121784908052007-09-10T15:06:00.000+08:002007-09-10T15:06:00.000+08:00Helo Pi Bani, like u say, wait until end of the ye...Helo Pi Bani, like u say, wait until end of the year and see..remember to cut down those news articles..later if did not deliver the promises...can use it to hantam.<BR/><BR/>U have a great week ahead.Nightwinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08486754485742899832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-57078855377878844032007-09-10T11:19:00.000+08:002007-09-10T11:19:00.000+08:00Kerp,Problem is we can't hand over the donation to...Kerp,<BR/>Problem is we can't hand over the donation to you because we don't have access to the big chunk of money! ;)<BR/><BR/>Bored? Go kacau everybody's blog lah...Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-67255314512485430562007-09-10T10:59:00.000+08:002007-09-10T10:59:00.000+08:00couldnt agree more with everyone. big chunk of mon...couldnt agree more with everyone. big chunk of money should be channeled to the disabled. u guys can hand over the donation directly to me....hahha..<BR/><BR/>acah2 je kak pi...its monday morning and i am bored already.Kerp (Ph.D)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08187993712816646804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-25365665545810879632007-09-10T06:22:00.000+08:002007-09-10T06:22:00.000+08:00U.Lee,Elections or no elections, the budget will a...U.Lee,<BR/>Elections or no elections, the budget will always have something good for the people. The only problem is, the funds somehow don't get to the deserving people. And when something is announced as free, nothing is mentioned about the "hidden costs" behind it - like the various other fees charged by the schools other than the school fees.<BR/><BR/>Have a great week ahead, U.Lee.Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-91657084305996080382007-09-09T21:49:00.000+08:002007-09-09T21:49:00.000+08:00Hi Pi Bani, good posting. You 'simply hantam', ha ...Hi Pi Bani, good posting. You 'simply hantam', ha ha, saw your comment at NP's place.<BR/>Pi Bani, to me whenever I see the government announce something "free" or 'potong tax' or 'giving $500 million to whatever, then ini tentu elections coming.<BR/>Once after any elections, the word "free" suda hilang from their vocab. And then they announce 'no money' for whatever.<BR/>There's always the small clause or a hidden catch somewhere.<BR/>Keep well, Pi Bani. UL. Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00659078775260068702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-4227701045515691502007-09-09T14:08:00.000+08:002007-09-09T14:08:00.000+08:00Hi there Daph fellow sceptic ;)Yep, our issue now ...Hi there Daph fellow sceptic ;)<BR/>Yep, our issue now is not the budget itself but more of the system... I mean the non-existence of a proper system in distributing the funds.<BR/><BR/>I rasa dah malas nak komen dah bab welfare ni but somehow something always tend to crop up and the excuses given are always so lame...Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-16926221387554296382007-09-09T12:27:00.000+08:002007-09-09T12:27:00.000+08:00Hi Kak Pi,Sorry lama tak jenguk mengacau...Sibuk a...Hi Kak Pi,<BR/><BR/>Sorry lama tak jenguk mengacau...Sibuk ar...<BR/><BR/>I think you found another sceptic to teman you...Tengok budget, eveytime, for welfare, for disable all, memang cukup cantik the figures...<BR/><BR/>But see lar, got get or not...<BR/><BR/>For disabled for example, look at Aisya...Among one of the rarest cases in Malaysia pun cannot get help...<BR/><BR/>I hope those who need it will get the funding...Otherwise, to them, budget is just empty talk!Daphne Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15203105761769093793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-34180384490632799822007-09-08T21:00:00.000+08:002007-09-08T21:00:00.000+08:00Winnie,Oh yeah... being the youngest, I used to ge...Winnie,<BR/>Oh yeah... being the youngest, I used to get all those handed down books too. Now no more text books problems as the text books are provided free, but gosh, there are so many other workbooks that need to be bought and so many other fees (the kind I never saw during my schooldays) that need to be paid.<BR/><BR/>You have a great weekend too, Winnie!Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-19339052879807194832007-09-08T19:44:00.000+08:002007-09-08T19:44:00.000+08:00i remember always using 'hand down' text books fro...i remember always using 'hand down' text books from my sister or cousins..perhaps the money can be better used somewhere than textbooks which can always be recycled. <BR/><BR/>Hope that Fuzi will get more money soon, $115 for 5 kids even with the FREE education, it really cant last long..<BR/><BR/>u hv a great weekend Pibaniwinniethepoohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00819214111724308315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-15886360111658756902007-09-08T16:29:00.000+08:002007-09-08T16:29:00.000+08:00Hussin,Yes I know, the schools need funds to run a...Hussin,<BR/>Yes I know, the schools need funds to run activities. And yes, I have seen schools where the poor are given exemptions from the various other fees or sumbangan, whatever you want to call it. And yes, in theory, if they don't pay, there's nothing anybody can do. Nobody can chase them out of school. But trust me, in reality, there are cases where the students had been pressured by their teachers to pay up. Some were pressured to buy additional books. Some were pressured to buy uniforms for their co-curricular activities. Some were pressured to buy specific sports shoes. Not all the teachers are prihatin to the students' problems. They just pressure and pressure until the student becomes reluctant to go to school. I know, amongst the small group of families under me, I've handled a few such cases this year, mainly secondary school students. How can they concentrate on their studies when they are being pressured?<BR/> <BR/>I agree with you and princessjournals, the money used to provide free text books for the well to do students could actually be channelled to the poor students to buy the other schooling necessities like workbooks and all.<BR/><BR/>For the time being, every year-end my NGO will assess the poor HIV affected families under us to see who needs financial assistance for their schooling. I'm sure there are many other poor families out there who are not getting any financial assistance.Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-47823753943265357082007-09-08T15:49:00.000+08:002007-09-08T15:49:00.000+08:00Pi,I can understand your argument about parents ha...Pi,<BR/>I can understand your argument about parents having to pay many things for a free education, but the school need funds to run its activities. I've been involved with PTAs for a long time and we badly need funds to carry out our activities. The only way for us to get it is through the "Sumbangan PIBG" We cannot even call it "yuran". In theory, if anybody decides not to make this "sumbangan" there is nothing anybody can do. But at all the PTAs that I'm involved in we always make provisions for the really poor to be exempted from the fees. We also pay for their fees for other activities.<BR/><BR/>Actually, I could not understand the need to give free text books to everyone when the money for free books for the well to do students could be used for better things. I am quite sure most parents (who can afford them) would not mind paying the school fees if they know that the money is put to good use.<BR/><BR/>But whatever it is keep up the good work you are doing. We sure could use a few more Pis around.<BR/><BR/>SallamHussinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17713243581483252057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-32885242586632556462007-09-08T12:09:00.000+08:002007-09-08T12:09:00.000+08:00JT,Yep, in today's papers it's boldly stated there...JT,<BR/>Yep, in today's papers it's boldly stated there 100% free education. And some of those interviewed said that now there is no more reason for students to miss school and what nots. Parents are excited. But I shall wait until the end of the year when schools start giving out the list of "other" fees and "other" books to be bought... then we'll know how FREE it is.<BR/><BR/>Ah, so you too had been given the merry-go-round, eh? Imagine how it is for the uneducated poor to be given the merry-go-round. They'd probably just end up going back to square one every time.Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-69905430666562288102007-09-08T11:08:00.000+08:002007-09-08T11:08:00.000+08:00Reports say FREE primary and secondary education b...Reports say FREE primary and secondary education but we all know nothing comes free that easily. This reminds me of those advertisements that promise you save a lot or get free this and that but we end up paying more for other things.<BR/><BR/>Fuzi's predicament with some government employees is a typical story. There will always be an excuse on their part why things cannot get done. There were a number of occasions when I called some government departments from Germany and the States for enquiries, only to be passed from one person to the other. Malaysian Embassy? Forget about it. They don't respond to phone calls or emails. <BR/><BR/>The only time I had some thing done efficiently overseas was by an Honorary Consul (a German). It took a foreigner to take care of a Malaysian's need in a foreign country. :)<BR/><BR/><I>Alamak</I>, I digressed a little. I hope Fuzi's situation is sorted out. For now it is a wait and see ....J.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13729752991744815923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-28816615246042410972007-09-08T06:52:00.000+08:002007-09-08T06:52:00.000+08:00Princessjournals,Some schools I know set up specif...Princessjournals,<BR/>Some schools I know set up specific funds for the purpose of helping the poor students. But not all schools seem to have such a thing. From my own experience handling children of poor PLWHAs, the ones in secondary school are the ones who are pressed by their teachers to buy so many things and to pay all sorts of fees other than the now abolished school fee. No wonder the children are so liat to go to school...<BR/><BR/>Yeah, it'd be nice if the money is channelled to the poor kids to pay for their other schooling necessities...Pi Banihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227545429070294956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424976298336470690.post-75611277397884740072007-09-08T02:22:00.000+08:002007-09-08T02:22:00.000+08:00i would really like to see the gov support the poo...i would really like to see the gov support the poor school and school children 100% and then some. Its just not fair for those attending for e.g. damansara utama school to be given any help since well, they live in damansara. it wud be nice to see those schools in expensive area where children were dropped off by the chauffeur in big cars wud actually decline the help and instead channelled the money to help provide the poor kids with other school necessities. wont tht be nice?<BR/><BR/>and yes, the teachers and other gov servants should do more than just reading the text book (my personal experience) or handing out forms.Salt N Turmerichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09364303172369275282noreply@blogger.com